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A rational conversation on where AI is actually going | Benedict Evans

Benedict Evans on why AI is a 1997 internet moment, what everyone gets wrong about job loss, and where the real value may accrue

Benedict Evans is an independent analyst and former partner at Andreessen Horowitz, where he spent years as their in-house “thinker” tracking the most important technology trends. For the past six years, he’s been publishing deeply researched presentations on where tech is heading, most recently focused on AI’s transformation of the economy. His work is read by founders, investors, and operators trying to make sense of a noisy field. His most controversial opinion: AI is as big a deal as the internet or mobile—and only as big.

In our in-depth conversation, we discuss:

  1. Why we’re in “1997” for AI—early, exciting, and deeply uncertain about what comes next

  2. Where value will actually accrue in the AI stack

  3. The anti-AI backlash, and where it may lead

  4. The surprising boom in consulting and professional services at AI companies

  5. Why distribution is becoming the ultimate moat as software gets easier to build

  6. Why the right question about your job isn’t “What percent can AI do?” but “Is this a task or a job?”

  7. Why things will probably be okay—and what you need to do to prepare


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Where to find Benedict Evans:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benedictevans

• Newsletter: https://www.ben-evans.com/newsletter

• Website: https://www.ben-evans.com

Referenced:

• Andreessen Horowitz: https://a16z.com

• AI Eats the World: https://youtu.be/niJpDnNtNp4

• VisiCalc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VisiCalc

• McKinsey & Company: https://www.mckinsey.com

• Bain & Company: https://www.bain.com

• Accenture: https://www.accenture.com

• Jevons paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox

• Benedict’s post on LinkedIn about Excel: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/benedictevans_younger-people-may-not-believe-this-but-activity-7303217994459938816-PNqu

• The AI-native startup: 5 products, 7-figure revenue, 100% AI-written code | Dan Shipper (co-founder/CEO of Every): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-every-dan-shipper

• Dario Amodei on X: https://x.com/DarioAmodei

• Marc Andreessen: The real AI boom hasn’t even started yet: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/marc-andreessen-the-real-ai-boom

• Frame.io: https://frame.io

• Food Marketing Institute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_Marketing_Institute

• Llama: https://www.llama.com

• Steven Sinofsky on X: https://x.com/stevesi

• Drake meme: https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/343699919/Drake-Hotline-Bling-Transparent-Background

• Ex-Google CEO Gets Booed While Discussing AI in Commencement Speech | WSJ News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNH43a1EI7s

• Jonathan Swift’s quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9838985-you-cannot-reason-a-person-out-of-a-position-he

• George Carlin’s quote: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/george_carlin_391403

• Fujitsu: https://global.fujitsu

• O*NET OnLine: https://www.onetonline.org

• Pete Holmes’s website: https://peteholmes.com

The Seventh Seal: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050976

• Ericsson R310s phone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ericsson_R310s

• i-mate phone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-mate

• J-Phone: https://www.mobilephonemuseum.com/phone-detail/j-phone-j-t06

Recommended books:

Three Men in a Boat: https://www.amazon.com/Three-Men-Boat-Jerome-K/dp/1512099899

Nature’s Metropolis: Chicago and the Great West: https://www.amazon.com/Natures-Metropolis-Chicago-Great-West/dp/0393308731

The Lord of the Rings: https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Boxed-Set/dp/0358439191


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My biggest takeaways from this conversation:

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