Sep 18 • 1HR 10M

Building a meaningful career | Jason Shah (Airbnb, Amazon, Microsoft, Alchemy)

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Lenny Rachitsky interviews world-class product leaders and growth experts to uncover concrete, actionable, and tactical advice to help you build, launch, and grow your own product.
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Jason Shah has led product teams at Amazon, Airbnb, Microsoft, and Yammer and currently leads the product team at Alchemy (one of the most important web3 infrastructure companies today). In addition, he’s an advisor, investor, and two-time founder. In today’s episode, Jason discusses what it’s like to be a PM in web3, why his role at Amazon made such a big impact on his life and career, what makes a great leader, and how to hire well. He also shares his unique perspective on building a meaningful career and life.

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Creative Selection: Inside Apple’s Design Process During the Golden Age of Steve Jobs:

• Casey Winters on Lenny’s Podcast:

• Jason Shah in Lenny’s newsletter:

The Hard Thing About Hard Things: Building a Business When There Are No Easy Answers:

• Polygon:

• Solana:

• MoonPay:

The Vietnam War series by Ken Burns:

• Alchemy:

In this episode, we cover:

(04:31) Jason’s background

(08:19) The current state of web3

(12:44) The evolution of product management in web3

(15:27) The value of a great product manager

(18:11) Why Amazon was a great learning experience 

(20:25) A look into Amazon’s process on working backward

(23:55) How to communicate clearly

(28:17) Working backward from excitement

(32:46) What makes a great leader

(38:26) How to influence a CEO or founder’s direction 

(46:19) The career ladder vs. career map framework

(52:27) When to follow a new opportunity vs. when to stick it out

(58:50) How to hire the right people

(1:03:47) What skill is most important for product managers

(1:06:49) Lightning round!

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