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Any episode that starts with "I do not believe in being liked I believe in being loved" and ends with "I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul" is going straight to the top of my favourite episodes. In between this podcast is packed with so many actionable insights on Vision, Mission, Roadmaps I lost count! Thanks for sharing so much of yourself. You both really turned up for this episode.

PS: I was super fortunate to have Francois Pienaar on my start-ups board for 5 years so my love of Invictus runs deep and to quote Ebi I know when his Bday is!

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