Roman Ugarte helped incubate and build Grok Bot, the popular new knowledge-work agent from SpaceXAI. A small, isolated team took it from first line of code to a working internal product in four weeks, and to a hugely successful public launch just three weeks later. Before Grok Bot, Roman led Growth at Cursor, where he helped scale the company from 15 people to over 1,000 before its acquisition by SpaceX.
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In our in-depth conversation, we discuss:
The origin story of Grok Bot
The key decision to build it from scratch instead of adding it to Cursor
Why the team personally onboarded nearly 300 of its first users
The two early product decisions that made Grok Bot so successful
Their “colleague-pilled” product philosophy
Roman’s advice on moats, and what has allowed Cursor to keep winning in the most competitive market in the world
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Where to find Roman Ugarte:
• X: https://x.com/romanugarte_
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/romanugarte
• Website: https://x.ai
Referenced:
• Grok Bot for iOS: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/grok-bot/id6794501026
• Grok Bot for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.x.grok.bot&hl=en_US
• How I AI: Grok Bot + Grok 4.6—what’s great (and what’s still hype) & Lessons from spending $20,000 on Devin in one month: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-i-ai-grok-bot-grok-46whats-great
• Codex: https://chatgpt.com/codex
• ChatGPT Work: https://chatgpt.com
• Shopify: https://www.shopify.com
• Salesforce: https://www.salesforce.com
• The playbook for building high-talent-density teams | Adam Ward, Head of Talent at Cursor: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-playbook-for-building-high-talent
• Superhuman: https://superhuman.com
• Stripe: https://stripe.com
• OpenClaw: https://openclaw.ai
• Listen: OpenClaw: A power user’s guide to the most powerful personal AI tool since ChatGPT: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/listen-openclaw-a-power-users-guide
• Hermes: https://hermes-agent.nousresearch.com
• From skeptic to true believer: How OpenClaw changed my life | Claire Vo: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-openclaw-changed-my-life-claire-vo
• Cursor: https://cursor.com
• Grok Build: https://x.ai/build
• Roman’s post on X, “An AI that does 100% of the job feels categorically different from one that gets you 90% there”: https://x.com/romanugarte_/status/2087344044435505175
• Notion: https://www.notion.com
• Casablanca: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034583
• Monk: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312172
• Exa: https://exa.ai
• Desiderata - Words for Life: https://allpoetry.com/desiderata---words-for-life
Recommended books:
• Cat’s Cradle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/038533348X
• The War of Art: Break Through the Blocks and Win Your Inner Creative Battles: https://www.amazon.com/War-Art-Through-Creative-Battles/dp/1936891026
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